Comments on: The truth will find you out… http://sbarnabas.com/blog/2010/01/29/the-truth-will-find-you-out/ the vague ramblings of the Revd. Fr. Edward Tomlinson SSC...... Thu, 29 Jul 2010 20:23:33 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0 By: Robert Dammers http://sbarnabas.com/blog/2010/01/29/the-truth-will-find-you-out/comment-page-1/#comment-9829 Robert Dammers Wed, 03 Feb 2010 19:13:00 +0000 http://sbarnabas.com/blog/?p=2245#comment-9829 They secured the oilfields first because one of Saddam's tactics in Operation Desert Storm was to set fire to oil facilities. Securing the fields both prevented environmental damage, and preserved them for Iraq's future. The often cited argument that the invasion was "for Oil" hardly needs refuting: production is sold to fill the Iraqi exchequer, not any of the coalition's, nor have subsequent oil contracts been awarded predominantly to companies from coalition countries. As has been pointed out, if the UK and USA had only wanted access to Iraqi oil, they could just have bought it. Oil is relatively cheap. Even security council votes are quite cheap: votes against action against Iraq pretty much line up with the places Iraq bought most of their arms. They secured the oilfields first because one of Saddam’s tactics in Operation Desert Storm was to set fire to oil facilities. Securing the fields both prevented environmental damage, and preserved them for Iraq’s future.

The often cited argument that the invasion was “for Oil” hardly needs refuting: production is sold to fill the Iraqi exchequer, not any of the coalition’s, nor have subsequent oil contracts been awarded predominantly to companies from coalition countries.

As has been pointed out, if the UK and USA had only wanted access to Iraqi oil, they could just have bought it. Oil is relatively cheap. Even security council votes are quite cheap: votes against action against Iraq pretty much line up with the places Iraq bought most of their arms.

]]> By: The Woggler http://sbarnabas.com/blog/2010/01/29/the-truth-will-find-you-out/comment-page-1/#comment-9821 The Woggler Mon, 01 Feb 2010 13:23:58 +0000 http://sbarnabas.com/blog/?p=2245#comment-9821 "Furthermore the names Stalin and Pol Pot render the argument entirely dormant as they were both atheists." How so? “Furthermore the names Stalin and Pol Pot render the argument entirely dormant as they were both atheists.”

How so?

]]> By: The Woggler http://sbarnabas.com/blog/2010/01/29/the-truth-will-find-you-out/comment-page-1/#comment-9820 The Woggler Mon, 01 Feb 2010 10:49:05 +0000 http://sbarnabas.com/blog/?p=2245#comment-9820 Andy B Rene Girard - Sorry, way too heavy for my feeble little brain to handle. Andy B

Rene Girard – Sorry, way too heavy for my feeble little brain to handle.

]]> By: Andy B. http://sbarnabas.com/blog/2010/01/29/the-truth-will-find-you-out/comment-page-1/#comment-9802 Andy B. Fri, 29 Jan 2010 16:49:02 +0000 http://sbarnabas.com/blog/?p=2245#comment-9802 <blockquote>I thought your god loved war. He certainly allows a great many to be fought in his name.</blockquote> Rene Girard writes on this topic and addresses it very well. I definitely recommend him if you haven't yet read him. God bless, Andy B.

I thought your god loved war. He certainly allows a great many to be fought in his name.

Rene Girard writes on this topic and addresses it very well. I definitely recommend him if you haven’t yet read him.

God bless,
Andy B.

]]> By: Administrator http://sbarnabas.com/blog/2010/01/29/the-truth-will-find-you-out/comment-page-1/#comment-9796 Administrator Fri, 29 Jan 2010 13:51:41 +0000 http://sbarnabas.com/blog/?p=2245#comment-9796 I think anyone with any education can see that all wars share more of a political than religious theme. Northern Ireland, for example, may use sectarianism to breed hatred but its war is faught over the British involvement in that land. Furthermore the names Stalin and Pol Pot render the argument entirely dormant as they were both atheists. Finally what wars have in common is mankind- and because the church is full of fallen humans it is not going to be perfect....if you want to judge us on our behaviour you will find we are a church full of sinful hypocrites- the good news for you Woggler- we always have room for another. And at least we Christians are striving to get it right and live by love. I think anyone with any education can see that all wars share more of a political than religious theme. Northern Ireland, for example, may use sectarianism to breed hatred but its war is faught over the British involvement in that land. Furthermore the names Stalin and Pol Pot render the argument entirely dormant as they were both atheists. Finally what wars have in common is mankind- and because the church is full of fallen humans it is not going to be perfect….if you want to judge us on our behaviour you will find we are a church full of sinful hypocrites- the good news for you Woggler- we always have room for another. And at least we Christians are striving to get it right and live by love.

]]> By: The Woggler http://sbarnabas.com/blog/2010/01/29/the-truth-will-find-you-out/comment-page-1/#comment-9795 The Woggler Fri, 29 Jan 2010 09:55:37 +0000 http://sbarnabas.com/blog/?p=2245#comment-9795 I thought your god loved war. He certainly allows a great many to be fought in his name. As for Blair, don't forget he thought he could get away with it (and he will) because he expected to be ultinmately judged by God I thought your god loved war. He certainly allows a great many to be fought in his name.

As for Blair, don’t forget he thought he could get away with it (and he will) because he expected to be ultinmately judged by God

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